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"The brain is wider than the sky, For, put them side by side,
The one the other will include With ease, and you beside"
-- Emily Dickinson
"We will pursue peace as if there is no terrorism and fight terrorism as if there is no peace."
-- Yitzhak Rabin
"I have thought it my duty to exhibit things as they are, not as they ought to be."
-- Alexander Hamilton
"The stakes are too high for government to be a spectator sport."
-- Barbara Jordan
"Under democracy, one party always devotes its chief energies to
trying to prove that the other party is unfit to rule --
and both commonly succeed, and are right."
-- H. L. Mencken
"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom.
It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
-- William Pitt
"The only completely consistent people are the dead."
-- Aldous Huxley
"I have had my solutions for a long time; but I do not yet know how I am to arrive at them."
-- Karl F. Gauss
"Whatever evils either reason or declamation have imputed to extensive empire,
the power of Rome was attended with some beneficial consequences to mankind;
and the same freedom of intercourse which extended the vices, diffused likewise
the improvements of social life."
-- Edward Gibbon
"Augustus was sensible that mankind is governed by names; nor was he deceived in his
expectation, that the senate and people would submit to slavery, provided they were
respectfully assured that they still enjoyed their ancient freedom."
-- Edward Gibbon
"There exists in human nature a strong propensity to depreciate the advantages, and to magnify
the evils, of the present times."
-- Edward Gibbon
"Our youth now loves luxuries. They have bad manners, contempt for authority.
They show disrespect for elders and they
love to chatter instead of exercise.
Children are now tyrants, not the servants, of their households. They
no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents,
chatter before company, gobble up their food, and tyrannize
their teachers."
-- Socrates
"Before impugning an opponent's motives, even when they legitimately may be impugned, answer his arguments."
-- Sidney Hook
"Idealism, alas, does not protect one from ignorance, dogmatism, and foolishness."
-- Sidney Hook
"Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted."
-- Ralph Waldo Emerson
"We take, and must continue to take, morally hazardous actions to preserve our civilization.
We must exercise our power. But we ought neither to believe that a nation is capable of perfect
disinterestedness in its exercise, nor become complacent about particular degrees of interest
and passion which corrupt the justice by which the exercise of power is legitimized."
-- Reinhold Niebuhr
"Faced with the choice of all the land without a Jewish state or a Jewish state without all the
land, we chose a Jewish state without all the land."
-- David Ben-Gurion
"...the proscribing any citizen as unworthy the public confidence by laying upon him
an incapacity of being called to offices of trust and emolument, unless he profess or renounce this
or that religious opinion, is depriving him injuriously of those privileges and advantages
to which, in common with his fellow citizens, he has a natural right; that it tends also
to corrupt the principles of that very religion it is meant to encourage, by bribing,
with a monopoly of worldly honours and emoluments, those who will externally profess
and conform to it;[...] that the opinions of men are not the object of civil government, nor under its jurisdiction; that to suffer the civil magistrate to intrude his powers into the field of opinion
and to restrain the profession or propagation of principles on supposition of their ill tendency is a dangerous fallacy, which at once destroys all religious liberty....
-- Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom, Thomas Jefferson
"We don't live just by ideas. Ideas are part of the mixture of customs and practices,
intuitions and instincts that make human life a conscious activity susceptible to
improvement or debasement. A radical idea may be healthy as a provocation;
a temperate idea may be stultifying. It depends on the circumstances. One of the most
tiresome arguments against ideas is that their 'tendency' is to some dire condition --
to totalitarianism, or to moral relativism, or to a war of all against all."
-- Louis Menand
"The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis."
-- Dante Alighieri
"He too serves a certain purpose who only stands and cheers."
-- Henry B. Adams
"The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the
poor to beg in the streets, steal bread, or sleep under a bridge."
-- Anatole France
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle."
-- Edmund Burke
"Education does not mean that we have become certified experts in business or mining or botany or journalism or epistemology;
it means that through the absorption of the moral, intellectual, and esthetic inheritance of the race we have come to
understand and control ourselves as well as the external world; that we have chosen the best as our associates both in spirit
and the flesh; that we have learned to add courtesy to culture, wisdom to knowledge, and forgiveness to understanding."
-- Will Durant
"Glimpses do ye seem to see of that mortally intolerable truth; that all deep, earnest thinking is
but the intrepid effort of the soul to keep the open independence of her sea; while the wildest
winds of heaven and earth conspire to cast her on the treacherous, slavish shore?"
-- Herman Melville
"The most important political office is that of the private citizen."
-- Louis D. Brandeis
"If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable."
-- Louis D. Brandeis
"We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both."
-- Louis D. Brandeis
"It is an error to suppose that books have no influence; it is a slow influence, like flowing water carving out a canyon,
but it tells more and more with every year; and no one can pass an hour a day in the society of sages and heroes without
being lifted up a notch or two by the company he has kept."
-- Will Durant
"When you write, you’re trying to transpose what you’re thinking into something that is less like an annoying drone and more like a piece of music."
-- Louis Menand
"Sex is a continuum."
-- Gore Vidal
"I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should
make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibit the free exercise thereof, thus building a wall of separation between church and state."
-- Thomas Jefferson, letter to the Baptists of Danbury, Connecticut, 1802.
"The sum of our religion is peace and unanimity, but these can scarcely stand unless we define as little as possible,
and in many things leave one free to follow his own judgment, because there is great obscurity in many matters, and
man suffers from this almost congenital disease that he will not give in when once a controversy is started, and
after he is heated he regards as absolutely true that which he began to sponsor quite casually...."
-- Desiderius Erasmus
"Are we to have a censor whose imprimatur shall say what books may be sold, and what we may buy? And who is thus to dogmatize religious opinions for our citizens? Whose foot is to be the measure to which ours are all to be cut or stretched? Is a priest to be our inquisitor, or shall a layman, simple as ourselves, set up his reason as the rule of what we are to read, and what we must disbelieve?"
-- Thomas Jefferson, in a letter to N. G. Dufief, Philadelphia bookseller, 1814
"We are told that it is only people's objective actions that matter, and their subjective feelings are of no importance. Thus pacifists, by obstructing the war effort,
are 'objectively' aiding the Nazis; and therefore the fact that they may be personally hostile to Fascism is irrelevant. I have been guilty of saying this myself more than once. The same argument is applied to Trotskyism. Trotskyists are often credited, at any rate by Communists, with being active and conscious agents of Hitler; but when you point out the many and obvious reasons why this is unlikely to be true,
the 'objectively' line of talk is brought forward again. To criticize the Soviet Union helps Hitler: therefore 'Trotskyism is Fascism'. And when this has been established, the accusation of conscious treachery is usually repeated.
This is not only dishonest; it also carries a severe penalty with it. If you disregard people's motives, it becomes much harder to foresee their actions."
-- George Orwell, "As I Please," Tribune, 8 December 1944
"Wouldn't this be a great world if insecurity and desperation made us more attractive? If 'needy' were a turn-on?"
-- "Aaron Altman," Broadcast News
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand."
-- Lewis Thomas
"To be ignorant of what happened before you were born is to be ever a child. For what is man's lifetime unless the memory of past events is woven with those of earlier times?"
-- Cicero
"Knowledge is of two kinds. We know a subject ourselves, or we know where we can find information upon it."
-- Samuel Johnson, Life Of Johnson
"Very well, what did my critics say in attacking my character? I must read out their affidavit, so to speak, as though they were my legal accusers: Socrates is guilty of criminal meddling, in that he inquires into things below the earth and in the sky, and makes the weaker argument defeat the stronger, and teaches others to follow his example."
-- Socrates, via Plato, The Republic
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, represents, in the final analysis, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children."
-- Dwight D. Eisenhower
"The term, then, is obviously a relative one; my pedantry is your scholarship, his reasonable accuracy, her irreducible minimum of education, & someone else's ignorance."
-- H. W. Fowler
"Rules exist for good reasons, and in any art form the beginner must learn them and understand what they are for, then follow them for quite a while. A visual artist, pianist, dancer, fiction writer, all beginning artists are in the same boat here: learn the rules, understand them, follow them. It's called an apprenticeship. A mediocre artist never stops following the rules, slavishly follows guidelines, and seldom rises above mediocrity. An accomplished artist internalizes the rules to the point where they don't have to be consciously considered. After you've put in the time it takes to learn to swim, you never stop to think: now I move my arm, kick, raise my head, breathe. You just do it. The accomplished artist knows what the rules mean, how to use them, dodge them, ignore them altogether, or break them. This may be a wholly unconscious process of assimilation, one never articulated, but it has taken place."
-- Kate Wilhelm
"The most beautiful experience we can have is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion that stands at the cradle of true art and true science. Whoever does not know it and can no longer wonder, no longer marvel, is as good as dead, and his eyes are dimmed."
-- Albert Einstein
"The decisive moment in human evolution is perpetual."
-- Franz Kafka, Aphorisms
"All of old. Nothing else ever. Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better."
-- Samuel Beckett, Worstward Ho
"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. And then they attack you and want to burn you. And then they build monuments to you."
-- Nicholas Klein, May, 1919, to the Third Biennial Convention of the Amalgamated Clothing Workers of America (misattributed to Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi, 1914 & variants).
"Nothing would be done at all, if a man waited till he could do it so well, that no one could find fault with it."
-- Lecture IX, John Henry Cardinal Newman
“Nothing is more common than for men to think that because they are familiar with words they understand the ideas they stand for.”
-- John Henry Cardinal Newman
"Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives."
-- James Madison
"Our credulity is a part of the imperfection of our natures. It is inherent in us to desire to generalize, when we ought, on the contrary, to guard ourselves very carefully from this tendency."
-- Napoleon I of France.
"The truth is, men are very hard to know, and yet, not to be deceived, we must judge them by their present actions, but for the present only."
-- Napoleon I of France.
"The barbarous custom of having men beaten who are suspected of having important secrets to reveal must be abolished. It has always been recognized that this way of interrogating men, by putting them to torture, produces nothing worthwhile. The poor wretches say anything that comes into their mind and what they think the interrogator wishes to know."
-- On the subject of torture, in a letter to Louis Alexandre Berthier (11 November 1798), published in Correspondance Napoleon edited by Henri Plon (1861), Vol. V, No. 3606, p. 128
"All living souls welcome whatever they are ready to cope with; all else they ignore, or pronounce to be monstrous and wrong, or deny to be possible."
-- George Santayana, Dialogues in Limbo (1926)
"American life is a powerful solvent. It seems to neutralize every intellectual element, however tough and alien it may be, and to fuse it in the native good will, complacency, thoughtlessness, and optimism."
-- George Santayana, Character and Opinion in the United States, (1920)
"If you should put even a little on a little, and should do this often, soon this too would become big."
-- Hesiod, Work And Days
"Your Honor, years ago I recognized my kinship with all living beings, and I made up my mind that I was not one bit better than the meanest on earth. I said then, and I say now, that while there is a lower class, I am in it, and while there is a criminal element I am of it, and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free."
-- Eugene V. Debs
"Reputation is what other people know about you. Honor is what you know about yourself."
-- Lois McMaster Bujold, A Civil Campaign
"All that we have to do is to send two mujahidin to the furthest point east to raise a piece of cloth on which is written "al-Qaida," in order to make the generals race there to cause America to suffer human, economic, and political losses without their achieving for it anything of note other than some benefits for their private companies."
-- Osama bin Laden
"Remember, Robin: evil is a pretty bad thing."
-- Batman
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It's just a start, it only gets longer, many are unintentionally left out.
And She of whom I must write someday.
THE MINIMUM WAGE. Doctrinaire conservatives and libertarians and others who don't tend to actually live at or below the minimum wage constantly have a refrain that raising the minimum wage will cause employment to drop.
As it happens, since I'm for a negative income tax, and unemployment compensation, I'm okay with that.
But it's also not even in accord with reality; merely, as is the case with much dogma, abstract theory that doesn't reflect reality. Jared Bernstein of the Economic Policy Institute writes about what many have written before:
[...] Faced with the specter of having to vote against increasing the wage floor from its current embarrassing level of $5.15 to $7.25 by Jan. 1, 2009, Congressional Republicans snapped into action and pulled the bill.
This is what these brave souls do in election season when they don't want to have to go back to their districts and answer questions as to why it's ok to cut hundreds of billions in rich people's taxes but deny the working poor a boost.
[...]
Last month, you passed $70 billion worth of new tax cuts, mostly by extending earlier Bush cuts on dividends and capital gains. When tax cuts target investment income, the benefits flow to the wealthy, and these cuts are exhibit A: they reduce millionaire's tax payments by $43,000, and those of middle-income families by $20. Sorry, that's not a typo.
[...]
Oh, and you raised your own pay by $3,300. In fact, you've raised your own salaries by about $35,000 since the last minimum wage increase.
But when it comes to raising the minimum wage, you pull the bill.
Let's review a few facts. The Federal minimum wage has been stuck at $5.15 since September 1, 1997. Come this December, you will tie the longest spell on record for ignoring the labor market's wage floor (i.e., the Reagan years, from 1981 to 1990, when Bush I signed an increase). And since it is not adjusted for inflation, its buying power has eroded by 25% since then.
That's why the current minimum wage, in real terms, is at its lowest value since 1955. Compared to the average wage, it's at 31%, the lowest level on record going back to 1947, meaning those stuck at or near the minimum wage are falling further behind the rest of us.
As always, your rationale for not raising the minimum is that it would hurt low-wage workers, whose employers would have to fire them when the wage mandate priced them out of the labor market (one can't help but note that this concern doesn't come up when you mandate your own pay hikes).
That would be a plausible argument, were it not for the fact that tons of careful research has disproved it. The federal minimum wage has been raised 19 times by Congress since its introduction in 1938. Eighteen states, covering about half of the national workforce, have minimum wages above that of the Federal level. And over 100 cities have living wages--a higher minimum that applies to workers on city contracts or at firms with local government subsidies.
In other words, more than any economic policy, we've had hundreds of "pseudo-experiments"--rare in economics--that allow us to test the impact of wage mandates on various outcomes. These experiments allow us to compare before and after, or, even better, compare nearby places that face similar economic conditions but have different minimum wage laws.
The question that has received the most scrutiny is whether increases in the minimum wage lead employers to lay workers off. You probably don't want to hear the results from me, but here's how Nobel laureate in economics, Robert Solow, put it: "The main thing about this research is that the evidence of job loss is weak. And the fact that the evidence is weak suggests that the impact on jobs is small."
A great example comes from the last Federal minimum wage increase, back in 1996-97. The usual suspects predicted massive job losses among those affected by the increase from $4.25 to the current level of $5.15. Instead, low-wage workers experienced the strongest job market in 30 years. Poverty fell to historic lows, particularly for the most disadvantaged workers, such as less-skilled minorities and single-mothers.
On the other hand, there no such body of evidence supporting your claims that cutting taxes for the rich actually accomplishes anything beyond distributing wealth up to the scale. Did I mention that profits as a share of national income are at a 39-year high?
But why let facts get in the way of engrained dogma?
Read The Rest Scale: 2.5 out of 5.
ADDENDUM, 6/20/06, 12:16 p.m., aside from forgetting to pre-empt the ridiculous "so why don't you favor the minimum wage being $50/hr., huh!? Huh?!?" (answer: because I'm not a moron) bit, I also forgot to mention that I favor tieing Congressional pay raises to the minimum wage; can't raise the former without proportionally raising the latter.
ADDENDUM, 6/20/06, 5:35 p.m.: The WSJ reports on the political popularity of raising the wage.
"This is what these brave souls do in election season when they don't want to have to go back to their districts and answer questions as to why it's ok to cut hundreds of billions in rich people's taxes but deny the working poor a boost."
Is there some connection between the two policies? Will minimum wage increase if we increase taxes on the wealthy? This is just demogoguery.
I suspect the reason minimum wage hikes are fairly painless is because the increases lag well behind market trends. Example; my wife runs a store for national retail chain in Denver. This company hires entry level employees at $6 an hour, a healthy 17% over minimum wage, but the lowest wage I'm aware of in this area. These employees are probably the least hirable members of the workforce, mostly immigrant women, many middle aged with poor English proficiency. Why don't they hire at the legal minimum wage? Because the market has made the de facto minimum wage much higher. They simply can't get any applicants at a lower wage.
Obviously, if the legal minimum were raised to $6 it would make little difference to this company. Even a bit above that would be tolerable. But what if minimum wage were raised to, say, $50 per hour? Does anyone think that would be sound move?
"On the other hand, there no such body of evidence supporting your claims that cutting taxes for the rich actually accomplishes anything beyond distributing wealth up to the scale. Did I mention that profits as a share of national income are at a 39-year high?"
That's worse than a non sequitur. If profits are up that benefits a lot of people, not just the the rich. If there is a connection between tax cuts and profits it would be an argument in favor of tax cuts, no? But to make that argument you would have to acknowledge the Laffer curve to be in play, and that higher taxes hurt profits. (an argument unsupported, even contrary to the author's intent)
"But what if minimum wage were raised to, say, $50 per hour?"
Darn. I had totally meant to put in a line pre-empting this cliche, since it's absolutely 1000% predictable that someone will raise this absurdity if one doesn't, but I forgot.
Yes, it is an absurd rate, and the point should be raised every time minimum wage is discussed. It points out that there is clearly a minimum wage rate at which the economy suffers damage.
For a more, ah, nuanced set of arguments about minimum wage there is an interesting set of links here:
"Yes, it is an absurd rate, and the point should be raised every time minimum wage is discussed."
Only if one believes one is arguing with a complete moron, and is correct; if not, suggesting that one's interlocuter is a complete moron may not be helpful. It's not a contested point. Thus it's irrelevant.
The point isn't contested? Perhaps not by you. Were you king, what rate would you choose for a federal minimum wage? I'm guessing we'll disagree on whether the wage you pick would be helpful or harmful.
I'm not convinced Mr. Bernstein isn't a moron, and his article isn't up to Amygdala standards.
Were I king, I'd hire a panel of economists -- perhaps I'd call them my "Council of Economic Advisors," and pick as close to a consensus number as I could find.
I've not done sufficient research to want to pick a precise figure for the nation for now (and obviously there are merits to also, as we do, letting States set their own supplementary figures reflecting local conditions). But certainly no less than $7 and change. I'd only be guessing at what a sensible ceiling for a possible minimum wage would be, but I'm assuming that it certainly wouldn't be more than ~$12/hr (almost certainly less).
I don't know anyone who thinks it makes any sense to simply set a minimum wage as high as one would like. No one. If you can find an economist or reputable politician who does, please let me know.
I'd be surprised, because I'd undoubtedly exercise my prejudices in whom I appointed, and while I'd be happy to hear the argument, I doubt the majority of my appointees would agree.
Likely one of them would be Brad deLong (though possibly only if he didn't interrupt people in blog comments).
It's possible that if Congress agreed to a strong and subtantial negative income tax, that I wouldn't see a need for for a minimum wage, though.
Walter, should a full-time job pay enough to allow a small household to stay above the poverty line?
If your answer is 'yes', then the minimum wage needs to be set high enough to enable that to happen.
The bill being debated in the Senate right this minute does that.
If your answer is 'no', then what the **** is the point of working? Why should people have to work more than eight-hour days just to stay out of desperate circumstances?
I blogged about minimum wage a few days ago, myself.
Well sure, but 'the market' sounds rather impersonal, doesn't it? What we're really talking about is a relationship between individuals. Example; I'd really like to find an at-home caretaker for the twins, since both of us parents work. I'm not wealthy, in fact I've worked (by choice) more than my share of jobs on the minimum wage end of the scale. So I can't afford to pay much, maybe not even minimum wage if I broke it down by hour. But if someone wants to do it, why should we be denied the opportunity to do so? The choice is either hire a nanny at a possibly illegal wage, or hire no one at all. The reasons someone might take such employment are myriad, and really no one's business except hers. (or his)
What I've described above is the market at work. When government steps in to that situation both sides lose.
BTW, we did have a wonderful elderly woman helping us for a while, when the twins were infants. They've grown to where she can't keep up with them. You can guess as to why she would want to do the job.
Walter, the national minimum wage applies to those employers covered by the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938, and it, of course, exempts individual household employers. Straw man argument.
There's also a number of other categories of exempted workers, such as workers with disabilities, full-time students, and student-learners, and workers under 20 under some circumstances.
Given that we're going to have a minimum wage law, what do you think of my (and many others') idea of tying it to Congressional wage hikes?
"Domestic employees have been covered by the Fair Labor Standards Act since 1974 and must be paid at least the Federal minimum wage, currently $5.15 (effective 9/1/97). If your state imposes a minimum wage higher than the Federal minimum, the state amount is in effect."
No matter, the dynamic I've described applies to businesses as well. The question remains, why should the government intercede in mutually beneficial relationships?
"Domestic service workers such as day workers, housekeepers, chauffeurs, cooks, or full-time babysitters are covered if: (1) their cash wages from one employer in cal-endar year 2004 are at least $1,400. (Different amounts would be designated in other calendar years, pursuant to an adjustment provision in the Internal Revenue Code); or (2) they work a total of more than 8 hours a weekfor one or more employers."
I thought you were talking about occasional babysitting, not a full-time or semi-full-time employee that you're paying thousands of dollars to.
"The question remains, why should the government intercede in mutually beneficial relationships?"
I'd concede that there are some cases where individuals are worse off. But all general rules have that problem; we have to decide if the overall effect is sufficiently beneficial or not. Possibly you also feel there should be no child labor laws, no restrictions on how many hours can be worked per week at all, no safety regulations, and no food health regulations, just for starters, as well, since the same or similar questions can be asked of all of those.
But there are entirely sound historical reasons that demonstrate why, historically, laissez-faire has worked out to cause tremendous human suffering and death. You're making the same objections that were made after, say, the Triangle Fire inspired some of the early work laws in America. Hey, people's right to work in death traps, and owners rights to have death traps, were infringed. And making work-places safer cost money, and doubtlessly a few people weren't employed. Or burned alive.
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